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    2/05/2022 8:11 am  #1

    Magnus S
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    Modern computer and B&G H3000

    Hi,

    I'm looking at updating the computer in a boat with a H3000 Hercules Performance system.

    Any computer worth upgrading to is 64 bit.
    The current laptop is connected via USB/H-link, but as far as I know, no 64 bit driver exists...

    So the only feasable way (except upgrading to a H5000, but then I will probably run into problems with the sensors?) seems to be connecting via RS-232...

    a) Will I miss out on some functionality using serial vs USB?
    b) What is the spec on the cable? As I understand it B&G do not supply it anymore. Does anyone have tips on suppliers/models, or pinouts?
    c) Will any USB->serial dongle do?
     

     

    2/05/2022 12:51 pm  #2

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    Re: Modern computer and B&G H3000

    The only difference is the USB connection has a USB-serial adaptor inside the H3000.

    You have to change a switch inside the H3000.

    There are various threads on this in earlier years. Here is one

    https://expedition.boardhost.com/viewtopic.php?id=1302

    https://expedition.boardhost.com/viewtopic.php?id=42


     

     

    2/07/2022 7:17 am  #3

    Magnus S
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    Re: Modern computer and B&G H3000

    Ah, sorry, did not think of looking under Networking.

    For any european looking for this cable, this seems to the one:
    https://www.conrad.com/p/sensoractuator-cable-sac-3p-m-8mr15-pur-1681693-phoenix-contact-715004

    Phoenix Contact Sensor/Actuator cable SAC-3P-M 8MR

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    2/07/2022 11:17 am  #4

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    Re: Modern computer and B&G H3000

    The easy solution is then to also use one of with the Phoenix cable (from memory, I think the H3000 was RS-232)

    https://ftdichip.com/product-category/products/cables/usb-rs232-cable-series

     

    5/14/2022 6:47 am  #5

    SiljeWith
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    Re: Modern computer and B&G H3000

    Please - this is slightly Too complicated to me.
    Can anyone Please explain in detail what i should do to connect Bg h3000 to a modern 64 bit computer?

    I need it like in detail (have looked at the old threads Too)

    Like
    - buy this (x,y,Z)
    - connect like this
    - download this
    ….


    Sorry for not being so quick

    Silje

     

    5/14/2022 12:31 pm  #6

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    Re: Modern computer and B&G H3000

    The problem is there is no 64 bit driver for the RS232-USE adaptor in the H3000, so you need to use the RS232 port on the other side of the H3000.

    This also involves moving a switch inside the H3000, see the B&G manual.

    B&G no longer sells the RS232 adaptor cable, but it is a stock part. See the links above.

    You then need to connect it to an RS232-USB adaptor, for example the FTDI solution above.

     

    5/15/2022 1:51 pm  #7

    SiljeWith
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    Re: Modern computer and B&G H3000

    Aha - i think I understand

    - not use the usb Connection out of h3000
    - use the serial rs232 out of h3000 instead
    - to allow for this I will have to “adjust the jumper to use usb or rs232” - where currently I am at usb and have to follow page 179/180 in the user manual to get the rs232 “activated”
    - then new rs232 to usb adaptor cable out of the h3000 rs232 into my computer usb  - solving the compability to 64 bits computer inside this product
    - and added by myself: (maybe I need a driver for the cable - explained from the cable supplier).


    Nais!
    Thank you as always

    S

     

    5/20/2022 12:23 am  #8

    barne
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    Re: Modern computer and B&G H3000

    These images might be useful for hooking up the pigtail. Please note this is which pin in H3000 that correspond to which function. Your ftdi-cable or connector pigtail will most probably have different color coding:


    Last edited by barne (5/20/2022 12:26 am)

     

    6/02/2023 4:21 pm  #9

    dkavalkovich
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    Re: Modern computer and B&G H3000

    Similar problem here:  I have a new laptop running Windows 11 that I'm connecting to existing boat cabling (USB) and I cannot get any instruments to show up.  The prior laptop still works and it is Windows 10.  I'm new to the boat, but I'm told it has a B&G 3000 system.  Prior crew hasn't had luck with connecting to the B&G lately, but they were able to connect to the AIS system.  I can't get anything that seems to work.   Any suggestions?

     

    6/02/2023 11:30 pm  #10

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    Re: Modern computer and B&G H3000

    If it is a 64 bit Windows, you can't connect to the H3000 USB port.

    See the posts above.

     

     

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