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I've owned and been using Expedition for about 6 months now. Used on a couple of distance races (Mac and Queens' Cup) and an extended delivery. It is awesome, very "deep" and capable.
I'm in the process of outfitting my new (to me) C&C 34/36+ racer/cruiser with electronics to replace the 20+-year-old B&G network instruments.
I've been looking at a couple of the racing-oriented instrument companies systems. One uses a proprietary masthead instrument, 3-axis compass and airmar speed paddle, the other recommends the Maretron WS100 acoustic masthead instrument, Airmar 3-axis compass and speed paddle. Both integrate the sensors to their proprietary brain box using NMEA 2000 and for both the system package price is between $8,000 and $10,000.
What both of these systems offer is very accurate TWA/TWS/TWD/BSP, with compensation for heel, pitch, yaw, roll and leewayto enable the boat to be driven to its polars.
So my question: after calibration and with the data available on the NMEA bus from, say, a Maretron WS100 (or Airmar WX200), Airmar HS2183 compass, Airmar ST850 speed sensor and any good NMEA GPS sensor, can I use Expedition to derive and feed back to the NMEA 2000 network TWD/TWS/TWA with comparable accuracy to,a dedicated proprietary brain box (Ockham or B&G come to mind)?
It looks to me like I can get pretty close to a $10K system for about $3K plus the PC and Expedition that I already own. Anybody have experience or informed opinion whether I'm on the right track or way off base here?
Thanks!
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I've owned and been using Expedition for about 6 months now. Used on a couple of distance races (Mac and Queens' Cup) and an extended delivery. It is awesome, very "deep" and capable.
I'm in the process of outfitting my new (to me) C&C 34/36+ racer/cruiser with electronics to replace the 20+-year-old B&G network instruments.
I've been looking at a couple of the racing-oriented instrument companies systems. One uses a proprietary masthead instrument, 3-axis compass and airmar speed paddle, the other recommends the Maretron WS100 acoustic masthead instrument, Airmar 3-axis compass and speed paddle. Both integrate the sensors to their proprietary brain box using NMEA 2000 and for both the system package price is between $8,000 and $10,000.
What both of these systems offer is very accurate TWA/TWS/TWD/BSP, with compensation for heel, pitch, yaw, roll and leewayto enable the boat to be driven to its polars.
So my question: after calibration and with the data available on the NMEA bus from, say, a Maretron WS100 (or Airmar WX200), Airmar HS2183 compass, Airmar ST850 speed sensor and any good NMEA GPS sensor, can I use Expedition to derive and feed back to the NMEA 2000 network TWD/TWS/TWA with comparable accuracy to,a dedicated proprietary brain box (Ockham or B&G come to mind)?
It looks to me like I can get pretty close to a $10K system for about $3K plus the PC and Expedition that I already own. Anybody have experience or informed opinion whether I'm on the right track or way off base here?
Thanks!
As you state, Expedition can calculate TWD/A/S for you (as well as current, leeway), and that is what will be displayed in Expedition when selected. Your challenge is to display these new numbers on deck - you can do this with Garmin displays (10 channels available).
You will also have some powerful and very flexible calibration available.
I've not done this personally (the Garmin displays - but have done a lot of calibraiton in Exp), but should deliver very good results, and very good value for money against a full blown integrated system.
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I've done something similar with B&G. I use the mast 20x20s to display values from Expedition (BSP, HDG, TWS, TWA), replacing the similar values that were coming from the B&G controller directly. I used the Remote channels in B&G mapped to Expedition channels. The intent here is to use the Expedition calibrations for these values rather than the B&G ones - mostly because it is a B&G 2000 and kind of a pain the ass to edit the tables.
The only downside now is that the PC must be turned on with Expedition runing to have anything display.