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3/08/2026 10:44 am  #1


GPS COMPASS

Hello. Has anyone raced with a Furuno SCX20 compass? I’d like to hear about your experience
Any recommendation for a cost‑conscious GPS compass? or something better than LT500.....

 

3/10/2026 10:43 am  #2


Re: GPS COMPASS

Gonzgo, another option is the Garmin MSC 10 which is worth while step up from a LT500 - a bit cheaper than the SCX20

 

3/10/2026 10:47 am  #3


Re: GPS COMPASS

Yes i have race and installed this unit, and works great and is very fast from GPS position input and Compass point. Rate of turn etc I have installed this also near the transom of a 12m class which also used the accelerations. As the default heading output is True North and not magnetic north this is something you need to take into account. Either when setting up the unit you add a magnetic output into the system setting, where it uses the Variation from the GPS signal and you can add a devation table in the unit or you can setup this up in Expedition. Depends if you would like to use for instance a handbearing compass it handy to use magnetic mode in expedition.

Last edited by rogier (3/10/2026 10:48 am)

 

3/11/2026 12:12 am  #4


Re: GPS COMPASS

Always very cautious of spec claims made from these low cost “gps compasses”, especially with such small antenna baselines. I suspect they are not delivering true gps compass solutions, but more a slightly enhanced magnetic compass solution, or potentially just aiding with the internal deviation offsets. They may even revert to DR/cog when signal quality is very poor and/or applying significant damping to mask errors. And you’ll never know which solution is being applied. I recall a top brand starting with g advertising a 10hz GPS with USB in recent years, but on investigation it was updating at no better than 0.5 hz and simply serving a DR pos at 10hz…

GPS compass solutions such as from SBG and hemisphere (c. £10k installed), with dual antenna setups with over 0.8m separation have been extensively tested in our environment by many teams and have fallen short in reliability (performance wise).

Here you might not see many on high end racing boats, where the choice really is to go full FOG, or build your own HDG offset table in your instruments.


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3/11/2026 1:43 am  #5


Re: GPS COMPASS

I have been tempted to build my own using a Control board and two antennas, placing the antenna's at the back corners of the boat (around 4m apart).

https://www.ardusimple.com/product/simplertk3b-heading/



 

 

3/11/2026 3:41 am  #6


Re: GPS COMPASS

rvsail wrote:

I have been tempted to build my own using a Control board and two antennas, placing the antenna's at the back corners of the boat (around 4m apart).

https://www.ardusimple.com/product/simplertk3b-heading/
 

That would be quite some project!

After 2 years working with a military/helicopter/drone grade system with direct intervention from their engineers, I'm dubious of the 'real' output of these low cost units, especially with such a small baseline.

A relatively stable environment of a 12m might well be OK - possibly better than a poorly calibrated LT500/1000/P9 etc....but not by much. I'd rather know what my repeatable errors are, than have a device mask them.


:::Campbell Field::::::www.fieldyachting.com:::
 

3/12/2026 12:58 am  #7


Re: GPS COMPASS

Since FOG systems are beyond budget (>40k€), I’m considering alternative combinations.
Would you recommend LT‑500 + Garmin 24xd, LT‑500 + LT‑300, or LT‑500 + Furuno SCX20 (primarily for LT calibration and used mainly as a GPS)?
 

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3/12/2026 1:45 am  #8


Re: GPS COMPASS

gonzgo wrote:

Since FOG systems are beyond budget (>40k€), I’m considering alternative combinations.
Would you recommend LT‑500 + Garmin 24xd, LT‑500 + LT‑300, or LT‑500 + Furuno SCX20 (primarily for LT calibration and used mainly as a GPS)?
 

Yes, agreed, FOG aren't cheap!

Hard to advise the best combination to go for, but published specs are very interesting...
Static hdg: LT-500 +/-0.5, SCX20 +/-1.0, MSC10 +/-2.0
Dynamic hdg degrades a little bit for the LT-500 to +/-1.5. But still better than the Garmin unit.

Hardly encouraging accuracy for a 'GPS compass'! Not surprising for such a short baseline, and there has to be some sort of failover in these units or some seriously good kalman filtering to maintain a good gps fix.

So, a well located and swung LT-500 *should* provide better accuracy than the Furuno and Garmin units?

Here are some comparisons of a high grade SBG Ellipse D vs a couple of magnetic sensors from a transatlantic crossing - the mag sensors falling within the +/- 2deg spec that the cheaper GPS compass units are claiming. Admittedly the P9 was not swung pre start, and a large change in magnetic dip etc over a 2600nm race.




:::Campbell Field::::::www.fieldyachting.com:::
 

3/17/2026 8:40 am  #9


Re: GPS COMPASS

As Campbell said, be careful with “specs”.

I’ll see if I can dig up some of the charts I made comparing the LT-1000, SCX20, SBG Ellipse-D/Equinox-D, Advanced Navigation Motus/Certus Evo, and an Octans 9.Octans 9 was the reference.

Boat was a Class 40, ~130nm runs, and the tests were done around ~47–48°N. 
On the GPS/GNSS side: you’ll usually (key word — i.e. not always) get better average signal conditions at lower latitudes (closer to the equator and mid‑latitudes) than at very high latitudes, because GPS satellites are in ~55° inclination orbits and tend to sit lower on the horizon as you approach the poles. 

Now, results-wise: even though the SCX was second to last on dynamic heading stability over ~130nm runs, the SCX20 was actually extremely close to the Ellipse‑D (single antenna) when GPS signal was good.
Where the Ellipse pulls away is when GPS degrades or you add the second antennae: it has much better magnetometers, so the heading stays a lot better.
Another big disadvantage for the SCX20 is the limited DR, but in the ~1K€ range it’s still hard to beat. 
When you compare SCX20 to the LT1000 / B&G Precision‑9 in dynamic conditions, SCX20 is a clear step up from these entry‑level compasses.
Anyway — that’s all just my opinion/experience.
 

 

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